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8th Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
The 8th Battalion Cameronians Scottish Rifles were a unit of the Territorial Force and had their HQ at 149 Catherdral Street, Glasgow. All the Companies, A to H were from the city. They were part of the the Scottish Rifle Brigade, Lowland Division when war was declared in August 1914. They moved to Grangemouth for training and on the 11th of May 1915 the Scottish Rifle Brigade became 156th Brigade, 52nd (Lowland) Division. They sailed from Liverpool on the 24th of May 1915 for Gallipoli, via Egypt arriving on the 14th of June 1915. They were in action at Gully Ravine in late June and suffered heavy casualties, on the 1st of July 1915 the 8th Battalion temporarily merged with 7th Battalion (They resumed thier own identity on the 21st of February 1916) In mid July 1915 they were in action at Achi Baba Nullah, and in late December at Krithia Nullahs. In January 1916 they moved to Egypt via Mudros and took over No 3 Section of the Suez Canal defences on the 2nd March 1916. They were in action in late April at Dueidar and in The Battle of Romani in early August, and during 1917 they were in action in the Palestine campaign. In March 1918 they left Arsuf for France and landed at Marseilles on the 17th of April 1918. The Division concentrated near Abbeville and went into the front line near Vimy on the 6th of May. On the 28th of June 1918 the Battalion transferred to 103rd Brigade, 34th Division. They saw action in the Battles of the Marne and the Final Advance in Flanders, at the Armistice they were in the area east of Courtrai and the 34th Division was selected join the Army of Occupation and travelled trhough Belgium to Germany, occuping the Cologne bridgehead in late January. in December a large number of men with mining and industrial skills had been demobilized to resume thier civilian occupations. In March 1919 the 34th Division was reconstituted and renamed the Eastern Division.
25th Apr 1915 Training
12th Jul 1915 Attack Made
16th Oct 1915 The Derby Scheme
1st Dec 1915 Derby Scheme Armlets
11th Sep 1915 Last day of Derby Scheme Recruitment
10th Jan 1916 Group System Reopens
9th February 1916 Call Ups
21st February 1916 Postings
23rd April 1916 Strong force attacked Katia & Dueidar.
25th April 1916 Reliefs
27th April 1916 Relieved on Outpost
6th May 1916 Brigade Test Alarm
17th May 1916 Reached Ultimate Railhead, Kilo 41
31st May 1916 Arrival
6th June 1916 Reconnaisance by B.G.C. & B.M.
8th June 1916 Orders
8th June 1916 Outpost furnished
11th June 1916 Message
12th June 1916 Anniversary of collision at sea on voayage from Mudros Bay to Cape Helles.
13th June 1916 Mobilisation Practice.
14th June 1916 Orders received.
14th June 1916 Mobile Column left before Dawn.
17th June 1916 Orders received
20th June 1916 New roster for Outposts.
2nd July 1916 Orders received
7th July 1916 7th H.L.I. arrived
8th July 1916 157th Inf. Bde. take over area
14th July 1916 Reinforcements August 1916.
15th July 1916 B.M.1170
17th July 1916 reinforcements
21st July 1916 7th Royal Scots. reached Romani
22nd July 1916 52nd Division Order No.4
31st July 1916 Reinforcements since 19th July 1916
31st July 1916 B.M.2205 issued to units
4th August 1916 Rapid Fire Heard
5th August 1916 Wellington Ridge
14th August 1916 G.C. 27 from 52nd Division
19th August 1916 G.A. 206 from 52nd Division
31st August 1916 Reinforcements August 1916.
6th September 1916
9th September 1916 Brigade Order No.70 issued
17th September 1916 B.M. 3037 to C.R.E.
10th October 1916 Operational Order No.6.
11th October 1916 Brigade arrived at Er Rabah at 1030 hours.
11th October 1916 Operational Order No.7.
12th October 1916 The march continued to Bir Abu El Afein.
25th October 1916 Operational Order No.9.
27th October 1916 Operational Order No.10
29th October 1916 The Commander in Chief visited
3rd November 1916 G.R. 2/2/1 from 52nd Division received
8th November 1916 S.C. 314.
12th November 1916 B.M. 167 from 1st A.L.H. Bde.
13th November 1916 B.M. 168 to 52nd Division
15th November 1916 B.G.C. held conference of Lewis Gun Officers
25th November 1916 Special Order issued
30th November 1916 Brigade Operation Order No 12.
1st December 1916 Brigade Operation Order No 13.
1st December 1916 7th Royal Scots report Operation Order No. 18
6th December 1916 1). Conference of B.G.C's amd B.M's
7th December 1916 Attack by Division of an Enemy position ( imaginary ).
7th December 1916 52nd Division Order No.27 received
7th December 1916 52nd Division Order No.27
9th December 1916 Demonstation of sealing barbed wire
14th December 1916 Corps. Exercise
19th December 1916 156th Infantry Brigade Order No.17.
31st December 1916 Q.764 received
4th January 1917 B.M. 4/8 issued
9th January 1917 G.B. 14 received from 52nd Division
23rd January 1917 Large drafts arrived
24th January 1917 B.M. 24/9 issued to units
12th February 1917 A.4833 received
18th February 1917 G.B. 64 received to take over Observation Post
19th February 1917 G.O.C. & B.G.C. inspected the Village Line.
3rd March 1917 Brigadier General E.S. Gindwood is appointed to the Command of the 74th Division
7th March 1917 Division arrived at El Burj at 1300 hours
25th March 1917 156th Brigade Operation Order No.4 issued
26th March 1917 G.B. 202 received
15th April 1917 156th Infantry Brigade Operation Order No.7
19th April 1917 Peceived Preliminary Orders for the Attack on Gaza
21st April 1917 52nd Division Order No.58 received
29th April 1917 52nd Division Order No.59 received
5th May 1917 Brigade Operation Order No. 8.
6th May 1917 Relief of the Firing Line
7th May 1917 Orders received
20th May 1917 Brigade Bombing School
21st May 1917 Casualty
21st May 1917 Work on redoubts
31st May 1917 Casualties
31st May 1917 Brigade Strength
10th June 1917 Brigade Order No.9
12th June 1917 Location Marine View.
16th June 1917 RE: Memorandum No.28
27th June 1917 Operation Order No.101.
30th June 1917 Effective Strength's
30th June 1917 Casualties
7th July 1917 Table of Reliefs.
7th July 1917 Operational Order No.10.
8th July 1917 Operational Order "A".
10th July 1917 Relief of the two Platoons
27th July 1917 Left Sub-Sector
28th July 1917 Reconnaisance.
31st July 1917 Pioneer Battalions moving in
1st August 1917 Relief of the 156th Inf. Brigade
1st August 1917 Operation Order No.12.
2nd August 1917 Table of Reliefs.
2nd August 1917 Unit effective Strength's
3rd August 1917 Reference to D.M.314
10th August 1917 Operational Order No.14.
14th August 1917 Appendix 13. B.M.486.
20th August 1917 German Measles
20th August 1917 52nd Division Order No.70.
21st August 1917 Rationing and Watering.
26th August 1917 B.M.615. App. 16.
27th August 1917 Programme of Attachment
31st August 1917 Effective Strength - August 1917
31st August 1917 Casualties during August 1917.
1st September 1917 Shedule of Codenames
4th September 1917 B.M. 741 to 8th Scottish Rifles.
5th September 1917 Brigade Scouting School started
10th September 1917 B.M. 818 to 8th Scottish Rifles
10th September 1917 Programme of Relief Operational Order No.16.
11th September 1917 narmed deserter and surrendered to the 8th S.R.
19th September 1917 Understudy in "Q" branch.
30th September 1917 Operational Order No.17
30th September 1917 Effective Strengths
4th October 1917 Operational Order No.18
26th October 1917 Scheme "M".
30th October 1917 Brigade Administrative Arrangements.
31st October 1917 Intensive training
5th November 1917 Releifs
12th November 1917 Attack Made
22nd November 1917 Operations of 156th Infantry Brigade 18th November to 3rd Dec
23rd November 1917 Report on Operations of 155th Inf. Brigade
23rd November 1917 Part 2. Operations of 156th Infantry Brigade
24th November 1917 Orders were received to march to Neby Samwil
24th November 1917 Nebe Samwil is a Mosque with tall Minaret
24th December 1917 Operations of 156th Infantry Brigade 19th - 23rd Dec
13th January 1918 March Table
13th January 1918 Brigade Orders issued
13th January 1918 Instructions
14th January 1918 Orders
15th January 1918 Conference of Commanding Officers
17th January 1918 Continuation of my B.M.117
17th January 1918 Orders issued
20th January 1918 Training programme
20th January 1918 Training Programme
20th January 1918 B.M.200.
20th January 1918 Church Service
20th January 1918 Move
22nd January 1918 B.M.211
23rd January 1918 B.M.214
25th January 1918 B.M.238
25th January 1918 B.M.243
25th January 1918 Major General J. Hill G.O.C. 52nd Division presented Ribbons
27th January 1918 Brigade Order No.26.
27th January 1918 Intelligence report
27th January 1918 21st Corps Routine Orders
30th January 1918 B.M.278 issued
6th February 1918 Reliefs
6th February 1918 Reliefs complete
7th February 1918 Patrol
10th February 1918 156th Infantry Brigade Order No.28.
13th February 1918 Reliefs
23rd February 1918 156th Infantry Brigade Order No.29.
25th February 1918 Reliefs
25th February 1918 Reliefs
28th February 1918 Casualties February 1918.
28th February 1918 Effective Strengths February 1918.
1st March 1918 Signal Communications.
1st March 1918 Company and Specialist training
6th March 1918 Movement over exposed ground must be avoided
6th March 1918 Brigade Order No.30.
7th March 1918 Reliefs
8th March 1918 Heavy Batteries
10th March 1918 B.M.959
15th March 1918 Brigade Order No.30.
15th March 1918 Brigade Administartive Order No.2
16th March 1918 Relief of this Brigade
16th March 1918 Sarona
23rd March 1918 156th Infantry Brigade Operational Order No.1
26th March 1918 Brigade Order No.32.
26th March 1918 156th Inf. Bde. Administrative Order No.4.
31st March 1918 Administrative Instruction No.5.
31st March 1918 Unit effective Strength's March 1918
31st March 1918 Casualties March 1918.
1st Apr 1918 Preparations
2nd Apr 1918 Advance Parties
3rd Apr 1918 On the Move
4th Apr 1918 On the Move
5th Apr 1918 On the Move
10th Apr 1918 Embarkation
11th Apr 1918 On the Move
16th Apr 1918 Good Weather
17th Apr 1918 Arrival
20th Apr 1918 Slow Progress
21st Apr 1918 At Rest
22nd Apr 1918 Inspections
22nd April 1918 156th Infantry Brigade App. 2.
23rd Apr 1918 Clothing and Equipment
24th Apr 1918 Instructions
24th Apr 1918 Orders
24th April 1918 156th Infantry Brigade Administrative Instruction No. 12
24th April 1918 Train departure times for 25th April
25th Apr 1918 On the Move
25th April 1918 156th Infantry Brigade Order No. 33.
25th Apr 1918 Orders
25th Apr 1918 Timetable
26th Apr 1918 On the Move
27th Apr 1918 Crops
28th Apr 1918 Advisor
29th Apr 1918 Route March
30th Apr 1918 Lecture
27th June 1918 Reliefs
28th Jul 1918 Preparations
28th Jul 1918 In Action
30th Jul 1918 In Action
1st Sep 1918 Advance Made
2nd Sep 1918 Attack MadeIf you can provide any additional information, please add it here.
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Those known to have served with
8th Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
during the Great War 1914-1918.
- Barr Joseph. Pte. (d.11th Dec 1917)
- Biggs William Edwin. (d.28th Jun 1915)
- Conochie Robert Pollock. 2nd Lt. (d.18th May 1918)
- Crawford James. Pte. (d.28th June 1915)
- Ferrie Edward. Cpl. (d.28th June 1915)
- Fleming Samuel. L/Cpl. (d.28th June 1915)
- Fleming William Neil. Pte. (d.13th December 1915)
- Graham William. Pte. (d.7th October 1918)
- Henderson John. Pte.
- Livingstone Allan. L/Cpl. (d.28th June 1915)
- Mcgrath Bernard. Pte. (d.28th Jun 1915)
- Mills William. Pte. (d.28th June 1915)
- Moonan Richard. Pte (d.28th June 1915)
- Morrell Ernest. Pte. (d.14th Oct 1918)
- Morrow Thomas. Pte. (d.13th Nov 1917)
- Smith Adam. Pte.
- Smith Adam. Pte.
- Smith Robert. Pte.
- Sneddon Archibald McGill. Pte.
- Souter William. Pte (d.28th Jun 1915)
- White William. Pte. (d.29th July 1918)
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Pte. William Mills 8th Battalion Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) (d.28th June 1915)William Mills enlisted in the Cameronians rather than in the Royal Scots Fusiliers, in which his father was serving, because he was underage. Although his age at death is given as 18, I believe he was only 17. He entered the conflict at Gallipolli on the 14th of June 1915 and only survived for two weeks. He is remembered at the Helles Memorial in Turkey.Maralyn Unsworth
Pte. Bernard Mcgrath 8th Btn. Scottish Rifles (d.28th Jun 1915)Only found out recently that I had family who died at Gallipoli. My great Uncle Bernard Mcgrath served and died for his country. Thank you for giving your today for our tomorrow.RIP
Alex Mcgrath
Pte. Ernest Morrell 8th Btn. Cameronians (Scottish Rifles ) (d.14th Oct 1918)My great grandfather's brother, Ernest Morrell, served in the 8th Battalion of the Cameronians Scottish Rifles. I know he died on the 14th of October 1918, only a very very short time before the war ended. He died in France.Other than this, I know nothing. We have no photograph of him, and I have searched the national newspaper archives for this but with no luck. If anyone knows anything about him please let me know. My great grandfather's first born son was named after him and my uncle's middle name comes from him.
Amy Dennis
2nd Lt. Robert Pollock Conochie 8th Btn. Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) (d.18th May 1918)Robert Conochie was my great-uncle. I don't know much about him apart from he had red hair. He joined up in 1914, sailed from Liverpool for Gallipoli, served in Palestine, and then was sent to France. He died on 18th May 1918, aged 23, during a battle at Vimy in France and is buried in Calais.
Pte. James Crawford 8th Btn. Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) (d.28th June 1915)James Crawford served with the 8th Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) in WW1. He died 28th of June 1915 and is remembered Helles Memorial in Turkey.Joe Eglinton
Pte. Robert Smith 8th Btn. Cameronians Scottish RiflesI just remember my Granda Robert Smith singing about "soldiers of the 8th Scots Rifles Glasgow is proud of you where ere we go we fear no foe were soldiers one and all". I remember him telling me he was in Egypt. He worked at the Cowlairs Railway Factory in Springburn.Robert Watt
Pte. Joseph Barr 1/8th Btn. Cameronians (d.11th Dec 1917)Joseph Barr died from wounds at the Battle of Gaza on 11th of December 1917 shortly before a stop to hostilities in that theatre of the war. The Ottoman Army surrendered in Jerusalem. Joseph is buried in Kantara Memorial Cemetery in Egypt. His name is on the Blantyre, Lanarkshire, War Memorial.Joseph Barr
L/Cpl. Samuel Fleming 8th Btn Cameronian (Scottish Rifles) (d.28th June 1915)Samuel Fleming was my grandfather. He was aged 27 when he was killed at the Battle of Gully Ravine, Gallipolli and left behind a wife, Margaret, and two daughters, May and Margaret (my mother). He is commemorated on the Helles Memorial, Turkey.Raymond McMillan
L/Cpl. Allan Livingstone 8th Btn. Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) (d.28th June 1915)Allan Livingstone was my great grandfather and sadly I can't find any trace of his records as I believe they were part of the burnt records. I would love to have a photo of him if anyone can provide this.His son, also named Allan, served in WW1 but was fortunate enough to return home. I am still searching for his regiment etc.
Kaye Griffiths
Cpl. Edward Ferrie 8th Btn Cameronians Scottish Rifles (d.28th June 1915)Edward Ferrie is remembered on the Helles Memorial.Too young, too sweet, to surely be dead?
The telegram - ‘Killed in Action, Dardanelles’
Felled by thundering, rumbling, blood-stained shells.
A son, a brother, a good friend too,
You were the uncle we never knew.
June 28th - a ripple in your chime
Who could you have been, given more time?
The moment of truth, an unwanted blow
A family in retreat, moving too slow.
The news a loved one will never return,
An unending battle, with no about-turn.
Your voice I imagine, full of bravado,
Accented, teenage, silent, now incommunicado.
Your face, blurred, through eyes that mist,
A sad lament for girls never kissed.
Toy soldiers, united one and all
Many destined to tragically fall
Taking your place in our own history
A central character, a tragic mystery
100 years later, at the end of this time
Some now ask ‘was this a crime’?
And what to say – the dead are still dead
All those Edwards, Eddies and sweet little Eds.
Tracey McBain
Pte. John Henderson 8th Battalion Scottish RiflesMy grandfather, John Henderson, survived war and died in 1972. He resided at 18 Royston Square, Townhead, Glasgow.Any further information would be appreciated.
Brian Chennell
Pte. Archibald McGill Sneddon 8th Battalion CameroniansI have recently found the birth certificate for my Uncle James who was born on 16th August 1915. His father, Archibald McGill Sneddon, is recorded on the birth certificate as being a private in the 8th Battalion, The Cameronians. Family lore recalled that Archie was wounded at Gallipoli. I have just discovered that his battalion was indeed at Galliopli. It is great to discover there is truth to family legend.Ellen Small
Pte. William White 8th Battalion Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) (d.29th July 1918)William White served with the 8th Battalion, Cameronians (Scottish Rifles). He died on 29th July 1918.Caroline Bryant
Pte William Souter 8th Btn. Scottish Rifles (d.28th Jun 1915)I would like to know more about how my Grandfather died at Gallipoli, he was Pte William Souter of the 8th Scottish Rifles.John Hill
Pte Richard Moonan 8th Btn. Scottish Rifles (d.28th June 1915)Richard Moonan was one of 4 brothers from Glasgow who enlisted. Two of whom died in France. He was killed at Gallipoli 4 weeks after his only son, my father, was born.Alex Moonan
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