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8th Battalion, Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
8th (Service) Battalion, Loyal North Lancashire Regiment was raised at Preston in September 1914 as part of Kitchener's Third New Army and joined 74th Brigade, 25th Division. The new division assembled in the area around Salisbury for training. The 8th Loyals moved to billets in Boscombe in December, then to Bournemouth in January, they returned to Boscombe in March. In May they moved to Romsey and to Aldershot for final training in June. They proceeded to to France on the 16th of September 1915, landing at Boulogne, the division concentrating in the area of Nieppe. On the 26th of October the battalion transferred to 7th Brigade, still with 25th Division. Their first action was in defence of the German attack on Vimy Ridge in May 1916. They then moved to The Somme and joined the Battle just after the main attack, with 75th Brigade making a costly attack near Thiepval on the 3rd of July. The Division was in action at The Battle of Bazentin, The Battle of Pozieres and The Battle of the Ancre Heights. In 1917 they were in action at The Battle of Messines attacking between the Wulverghem-Messines and Wulverghem-Wytschaete roads. In the Third battle of Ypres were were in action during The Battle of Pilkem. In early 1918 the army was reorganised and the 8th Loyals were disbanded at Courcelles on the 16th of February 1918, with the troops tramsferring to other units.
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30th September 1916 Relief and return to Hauteville 6th Battalion Lincolnshire Regiment are in Schwaben Trench. At 1530 the Battalion is relieved by 8th Loyal North Lancs and marches back to billets Hauteville.Total casualties 25th to 30th September. 2nd Lt Ingersoll - killed Other Ranks - 14 killed, 71 wounded
GH Gater Lt Colonel commanding 6th Btn. Lincolnshire Regiment.
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8th Battalion, Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
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- Addison Richard. L/Cpl. (d.23rd Oct 1916)
- Beaver Albert Richmond. L/Cpl. (d.27th May 1917)
- Bennett Harry Dare. Capt.
- Bicker Claude Thomas. Pte. (d.1st June 1917)
- Chadwick Tom. Pte. (d.15th July 1917)
- Cookson James. Pte.
- Emerson Harold Theodore. 2nd Lt. (d.10th July 1916)
- Jones VC Richard Basil Bandram. Lt. (d.21st May 1916)
- Ormerod James. Pte.
- Owen William Alfred. Pte.
- Patten William Henry. Pte. (d.7th Jun 1917)
- Pilkington Peter. Pte. (d.21st May 1916)
- Ramsay DSO MID Stuart. Cptn. (d.2nd June 1917)
- Randle George Victor. Pte. (d.10th Jul 1917)
- Williams Herbert. Pte. (d.7th Jun 1917)
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Cptn. Stuart Ramsay DSO MID 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.2nd June 1917)Stuart Ramsay born Bothwell, Lanark on 10th September 1887, son of William & Helen. Educated Glasgow High School, Pre-War he was an Accountant by trade. He went to New Zealand in 1913 and returned to England in 1915.Gazetted 2nd Lieut. on 10 May 1915 he joined the Loyal North Lancashire Regt and promoted tp Lieut the following October. Twice MID and awarded DSO 1 August 1916 for 'Conspicuous Gallantry in action". He was promoted to Captain in June 1916 and killed in action on Messines Ridge on the 2nd of June 1917.
Ralph Bennett
Lt. Richard Basil Bandram Jones VC 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.21st May 1916)Richard Jones was killed in action on the 21st of May 1916, aged 19. Commemorated on the Arras Memorial in the Faubourg-d'Amiens Cemetery, Arras, he was the son of Henry Thomas Brandram Jones and Caroline Emma Jones, of 2, Thicket Rd., Anerley, London.An extract from The London Gazette dated 5th August, 1916, records the following:- "For most conspicuous bravery. He was holding with his platoon a crater recently captured from the enemy. About 7.30 P.M. the enemy exploded a mine forty yards to his right, and at the same time put a heavy barrage of fire on our trenches, thus isolating the Platoon. They then attacked in overwhelming numbers. Lt. Jones kept his men together, steadying them by his fine example, and shot no less than fifteen of the enemy as they advanced, counting them aloud as he did so to cheer his men. When his ammunition was expended he took a bomb, but was shot through the head while getting up to throw it. His splendid courage had so encouraged his men that when they had no more ammunition or bombs they threw stones and ammunition boxes at the enemy till only nine of the platoon were left. Finally they were compelled to retire."
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Pte. Herbert Williams 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.7th Jun 1917)Herbert Williams of the 8th Loyal North Lancashire Regiment was killed in Flanders on 7th of June 1917 age 21. He is brother to Arthur Williams of the South Lancashire Regiment and brother in law to George Ellis Price, David Evan and Hugh Edward Humphreys.Tony Cowley
Capt. Harry Dare Bennett 8th Battalion Loyal North Lancashire RegimentHarry Bennett was the son of Sir Henry C. Bennett and Lady Julia Ann Joyce. Harry was shot in the right buttocks at the Battle of Pozières, and also received burns to the right side of the face, mouth and throat at the Battle of Passchendaele.Harry was discharged on the 15th of April 1918 due to the burns he received. Harry returned to his wife and four children in Stockport, and remained there until he died in 1966. Harry also served in the Civil Defence Rescue Service during the Second World War as a Chemical Operations Officer.
Mitchell Bennett
Pte. George Victor Randle 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.10th Jul 1917)George Randle is not a relative but I have been researching him and his brothers who were killed during the war. They were originally from Great Yarmouth, Norfolk.Andrew Roofe
L/Cpl. Albert Richmond Beaver 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire (d.27th May 1917)R. Beaver is commemorated on the Mangotsfield War Memorial but there is no man of that name from Mangotsfield recorded by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. But, there is an Albert Richmond Beaver from the village so it appears he was probably better known as Richmond Baber as indicated on the Electoral list of 1914?Hewas born in 1890 in Mangotsfield to Albert and Amy Keziah Beaver (nee Baker) who were married on 25th December 1888 in Christ Church, Downend. In 1891 they were living in Staple Hill and ten years later Richmond was residing in Salisbury Avenue, Two Mile Hill, St. George with his step father William Gingell who had married Richmond's mother Amy in 1895 following the death of Richmond's father Albert in 1892. When he enlisted in 1909 Richmond was employed as a box making machinist in a printing works living at 11, Burchell's Green Road, St. George with his step father who had also been widowed, with Richmond's mother Amy passing away in 1910.
Richmond enlisted for ten years on 3rd June 1909 in Bristol as Ordinary Seaman Bristol 3/788 in the Royal Naval Division with his records showing he was 5' 6" tall with dark brown hair with grey eyes and had a small tattoo smudge on his right forearm. However his service appears to have been cut short or 'Incomplete' according to his service record. Despite having reached the level of A.B. (Able Bodied Seaman) it also states that his service onboard H.M.S. Spartan (a Second Class Light Cruiser) was cancelled and demoted to ships cook. Clearly he left the Royal Navy as the 1914 Electoral Register has Richmond living in 9, Court Road, Kingswood, with his wife Elizabeth.
He formerly served as Lance Corporal 27193 1st/6th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment (based upon his service number), enlisting some time after 1915 and later posted as Lance Corporal 34329 to 8th (Service) Battalion, The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (25th Division) for Kitchener's Army which had landed in Boulogne on 16th September 1915, the division concentrating in the area of Nieppe and on 26th October it was transferred to 7th Brigade. Their first action was in defence of the German attack on Vimy Ridge in May 1916. They then moved to The Somme and joined the Battle just after the main attack, with 75th Brigade making a costly attack near Thiepval on the 3rd of July. The Division was in action at The Battle of Bazentin, The Battle of Pozieres and The Battle of the Ancre Heights
Richmond was killed in action on 27th May 1917 near Neuve Eglise in the Battle of Messines during the attack between the Wulverghem-Messines and Wulverghem-Wytschaete roads and is buried at the Dranoutre Military Cemetery, 11.5 kilometres south of Ypres, Belgium. Strangely there is nothing untoward in the Battalion's War Diary to indicate there was any figthing with the enemy ..24th - 28th May. The 7th Infantry Brigade relieved the 74th Infantry Brigade in the Wulvergheim sector. The 1st Battalion Wiltshire Regiment going into the trenches. 8th Loyal North Lancs in brigade support at Neuve Eglise and the two remaining battalions in reserve at Aldershot and Bulford camps. However the Diary states that during the night of the 28th ...the enemy bombarded our front trenches, the damage done being inconsiderable (negligible).... so how was Richmond killed? He was posthumously awarded the 1914-15 Star, the British War and Victory medals
Pte. Claude Thomas Bicker Kings Liverpool Regiment (d.1st June 1917)Claude Bicker was born in Carlisle, Cumbria in 1895. He initially enlisted in the Kings Liverpool Regiment on 11th of January 1915 aged 20. His battalion left Formby in July 1916 for France. Sometime around August 1916 he was transferred to the 8th Battalion of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment under the new service number 29979. On 1st of July 1917, Claude was killed whilst attached to the Machine Gun Corps aged 22. I believe he was attached to the 7th Coy. Machine Gun Corps when he died. Their War Diary confirmed that they were in the Wolverghem sector and that three men were killed and two were wounded at North Midland Farm.Leanne Roberts
L/Cpl. Richard Addison 8th Btn. C Coy. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.23rd Oct 1916)Richard Addison was born in Preston in 1886 and was the eldest son of Richard and Charlotte Addison (nee Foreman/Forman). Richard`s parents were married on 29 July, 1883 at St. Saviour with St. James Church, Preston. Richard and Charlotte Addison had another eleven children. The others being Alice A (1883), Margaret Alice (1885), Robert (1889), Lizzie (1892), Betsy Ellen (1894-1894), Archibald (1895), Mary Jane (1898), Betsy Ellen (1900), Frederick (1903), Walter (1904) and Joseph (1906). In 1901 the family were living at 17 Tennyson Road, Preston. Richard`s father was working as a grinder in the card room of a cotton mill. According to his service papers Richard married Elizabeth Johnson on the 22 September, 1906 at St. Ignatius RC Church, Preston. On the 20 December, 1907 Richard and Elizabeth had their first child, a daughter and they named her Alice Ann. Eighteen months later she was followed by another daughter Elizabeth who was born on 6 June, 1909. In 1911 Richard, Elizabeth and their two daughters were living at 9 Hopwood Street, Preston. Richard was working as a lap piercer in a local cotton mill and Elizabeth was at home looking after the two girls. On the 8 May, 1913 a son was born and they named him Richard.On the 5 September, 1914 Richard went off to enlist at the age of 28 years and 1 month. His occupation at the time was a labourer working for Messrs. Irvin and Sellers a Wood Turning and Shuttle Manufacturers in Preston. Richard confirmed that he had no previous military experience. The Medical Officer noted that he was 5`5" tall and weighed 116 lbs, he had a fresh complexion, blue eyes and brown hair. He was posted into C Company of the 8th Battalion and allocated the service number 13466. The 8th Battalion stayed in England for a year training and growing in strength until the 24th September, 1915 when they embarked for France. Richard was appointed Lance Corporal (paid) on the 11th of July, 1916 when the 8th Battalion had been in action on the Somme. The previous day the Battalion had lost a total of 247 Officers and men who had either been killed, wounded or missing in the area around Ovillers.
On the 12th of October, 1916 Richard was wounded in action and was admitted to No. 22 General Hospital with gunshot wounds. The wounds he received resulted in the amputation of one of his legs but sadly he did not recover and he died at 1 am. on the morning of the 23rf of October 1916.
Richard Addison
2nd Lt. Harold Theodore Emerson 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.10th July 1916)My great uncle Harold Emerson was originally in the Royal Engineers and he qualified for his 1914-1915 Star Medal when he went into a theatre of war on 5th November 1914.He was later commissioned into the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. He was killed in action serving with the 8th Bn. Loyal North Lancs on 10th July 1916, during an attack towards the rear of the village of Ovillers la Boiselle (Somme). The 8th Bn were fighting along a trench towards the rear of Ovillers and were counter-attacked several times and made little progress, resulting in casualties of 247. One of these would have been 2nd Lt H T Emerson. His body was never found and he is now commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial. He died aged 18.
Wendy Bailey
Pte. Tom Chadwick 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire Regiment (d.15th July 1917)Tom was my great grandfather. He was killed at 26 year old. I only know he was an only child. He was married and had one son, Ronald, my grandfather who was killed in WW2. His ship was torpedoed in 1942.Marie
Pte. William Alfred Owen 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire RegimentI never met my grandfather William Owen, who served with the 8th Battalion, Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. I do know from family history that he was invalided out of the army, having been gassed. It would be interesting to find out where and when this happened.The effect of being gassed on both him and on his family was immense. Gramps was rarely in work, drank and swore too much. But given what he had suffered, it was understandable. The effect on my Father was immense and completely the opposite of what you might expect. He was one of the gentlest men you could ever wish to meet. It is noticeable that when WW2 broke out he volunteered for the Royal Navy and not the Army. I did ask him why, he never told me.
Stephen Owen
Pte. James Ormerod 8th Btn. Loyal North Lancashire RegimentMy Great-Grandfather Jim Ormerod signed up in December 1915 aged 18, but didn't land in France until January 1917 with the 8th Battalion for which he served until they were disbanded in February 1918, he was transferred to the 2nd/4th battalion Loyals and in the spring of 1918 suffered a gas attack and returned to recover in a hospital near Sheffield, what happened after that is a bit of a mystery, his medal index card suggests he served with the Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regiment, however, there was a story saying he was part of Operation Archangel, he survived the war but suffered tremendously with chest problems, he died in 1962.Paul Watters
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